Batting Around: Do Astros deserve 'dynasty' label after second World Series title?

Batting Around: Do Astros deserve ‘dynasty’ label after second World Series title?

Throughout the offseason, the experts at CBS Sports MLB will bring you a weekly Batting Around panel discussion breaking down just about everything. Breaking news, a historical question, thoughts on the future of baseball, all sorts of things. When We Last Discuss Surprise Playoff Teams. This time, we’ll tackle the success of the Astros after winning their second title in franchise history on Saturday night, knocking out the Phillies in six games.

Houston’s win brings us to our Batting Around question…

Are the Astros a dynasty?

Matt Snyder: Absolutely not. End of the conversation.

OK, I guess I should say more. There were four different champions between just two titles. If they win next year, we can talk about that, but two out of six isn’t dynasty material and would be far too liberal a way to apply the label. They’re an American League dynasty, having won the league four out of six times and reached the league tournament finals for six years, but that’s not a thing. There are no conference or division or league dynasties in sports.

RJ Anderson: That’s a no for me because of how the term “dynasty” tends to be used. I think we need a new word that means a team one step below, or “a really good and consistent team with a few titles”. I agree that two titles in six years is not what you think of when you think of the word “dynasty”. Six consecutive trips to the LCS round are impressive, however, and should be celebrated. With the playoffs constantly expanding, we’re less likely to see teams win three or four more championships in a short period of time. So ultimately I think we just need a new term to use to label these Astros, or the Dodgers – that, or maybe we just need to redefine what exactly makes a dynasty.

Mast: I agree with RJ that we could come up with another term to separate teams that are really great over longer periods of time from teams that only one has won the title. As for what makes a dynasty, the one we’ve seen in baseball in my lifetime is the Yankees. They have won four titles in five years. Many people like to use the phrase “when you see it, you know it”. You knew it was a dynasty.

Mike Axisa: No come. The Astros are 2-2 in the World Series in this run and 13-13 in World Series games. Two titles in six years aren’t enough – are the 2006 and 2011 Cardinals a dynasty? – and you don’t get credit for going to the World Series and losing. If the Astros win the World Series next season, we can ask the question of dynasty a little more seriously. So far it’s a great race by a great team. We can enjoy it without forcing the dynasty debate.

Dayn Perry: I’m not really sure there’s a consensus on what a dynasty means in MLB, but two titles in six years doesn’t make a dynasty. I’m not even sure the 2017 title, because it was in, you know, 2017, is relevant to whether the 2022 team will ever be part of a dynasty. No is the easy answer here.

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